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Dig Deeper Into ‘Suicide Squad’ Deleted Scenes And Behind-The-Scenes Rumors

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Suicide Squad may not have been a huge success with critics, but it still grossed over $465 million so far and broke records including a record-breaking opening night for August, a record-breaking opening weekend in August, the highest-grossing Monday and Tuesday in August, and an August record for Fandango ticket pre-sales. All that after reshoots and rumors of behind-the-scenes drama in the wake of Batman V Superman earning less than Warner expected.

There’s still a lot to speculate about, like what happened to all of Jared Leto’s scenes, that heady stuff that “changed him forever“? Director David Ayer said there were only ten minutes of deleted scenes, which may or may not have included the Joker, while Leto has said cutting down the scenes was “filtering all of the insanity” and Margot Robbie said those scenes just weren’t that important to the story.

To dig deeper into some of these rumors and deleted scenes, Mr. Sunday Movies — who already rounded up Suicide Squad Easter eggs — compiled speculation from several sources and quotes from the director and cast themselves. It touches on many things we’ve been hearing about, like multiple edits of the film resulting in the “dossier” version with the trippy character profiles added to tell the audience who’s who. David Ayer explained that version to Empire:

“There’s a linear version we did where it opens up with June in the cave and tells the story in sequence with the arrests and Batman, and then we go to Belle Reve. Honestly, there may be six or seven different versions of the film. In that version, [test] audiences were left with a lot of questions and a little disoriented as to who to watch and why. So we came up with what we call the ‘dossier’ version which has Amanda presenting the backstories and origins of the various members.”

That’s the same interview wherein Ayer called Suicide Squad an “anarchic punk rock art movie.” Sure.

Anyway, if you wanted to see one of the deleted scenes — the one where Joker slaps Dr. Harleen Quinzel — we spotted that one over a year ago. It’s probably for the best they didn’t keep it. I don’t want to see Margot Robbie getting beat up, but I would like to believe the film was an elaborate practical joke on Jared Leto, making him shave off his eyebrows and stay in character for nothing. Who’s laughing now?

(Via Mr. Sunday Movies and Empire)


‘Gotham’ Starts Paving The Way For Proto-Joker Jerome To Return Transformed

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Gotham season two ended with (spoiler) a busload of villains escaping from Arkham, including a Bruce Wayne lookalike, the previously-deceased Fish Mooney (resurrected by Hugo Strange), and the familiar-sounding laugh of proto-Joker Jerome Valeska (Cameron Monaghan). The character supposedly died shortly after his introduction as a matricidal, patricidal, cackling carny in season two, but hints immediately emerged that he wasn’t going to stay dead, with Ben McKenzie talking about Jerome and Fish Mooney coming back and showrunner Bruno Heller dancing around the identity of the Joker.

But two new developments make it clear the character isn’t finished terrorizing Gotham yet. First, the actor tweeted this:

 

And we did this:

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But it wasn’t just Monaghan having some wishful thinking. Fox is now being a little more direct about their will-they-or-won’t-they relationship with Jerome. During a press tour, executive producer John Stephens told Zap2it, “It is 100% our intention to bring Jerome back.”

And he was less vague about the Jokerish-ness of the character:

“We’re going to be playing it again this year and basically extending the idea of the cult of Jerome. […] You’ll have these underground movements that have started to talk about Jerome and what he represented and how he’s going to come back like in the days of John the Baptist.”

He went on to say Jerome wouldn’t come back until season four (if there is a season four), and there will continue to be “different versions of the Joker myth,” which is nothing new. Stephens also said the character “plays into the idea of transformation” and will be a “new version.” Presumably, the new version will be the same actor (Sorry, Clare) but even more bonkers.

It keeps sounding more and more like Monaghan was a better fit for the Joker than they expected, but the scripts using him as a misdirect and killing him off were already written, leaving the writer’s room to say, “Well, sh*t, how do we bring him back and give him a lot more scenes?” It’s a reverse Jared Leto, if you will.

(Via Zap2it and Cameron Monaghan)

Jared Leto Is Still Complaining About ‘Suicide Squad’ Even Though He Hasn’t Seen It

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Suicide Squad‘s behind the scenes drama, particularly as it relates to the totally twisted Clown Prince of Crime, continues to be more interesting than the actual movie. Jared Leto claims a lot of the Joker scenes were left on the cutting room floor. Were they too edgy for mainstream audiences? Nope. It was because, as Margot Robbie explained, “[Director David Ayer] probably realized that the emotional through-line of the story had to be the mission we were on, and kind of explaining The Enchantress’ position and all that kind of stuff.” An extra 10 minutes of Leto’s damaged mugging would have added nothing to Suicide Squad. That’s what the rumored Joker spinoff movie is for.

Who started the rumor? Jared Leto.

Anyway, despite his numerous complaints, Leto hasn’t actually seen Suicide Squad, which is like saying you hate caviar before even eating it. You know it’s going to be terrible, and it is terrible, but don’t knock something until you try it. Leto told the BBC that “I haven’t seen it,” to which the world replied, “Lucky.” The Oscar winner didn’t sound much happier at Camp Mars — yes, it’s a three-day Thirty Seconds to Mars summer camp “experience” — when someone asked if the studio made him agree to any contract stipulations, including not being able to go rock climbing. “Yes,” Leto replied, adding, “but my answer is: f*ck ’em.” He said that while wearing a tie dye shirt.

Here’s a summary of what else Leto revealed:

He was very honest about the film this weekend; his disappointment in what he’s learned of the theatrical cut (he’s still not seen the film); feeling sort of tricked into being a part of something that had been pitched to him very differently; thinking it would’ve been more artistic than what it became; feeling overwhelmed by the hate regarding the look and choices… (Via batman-news)

Suicide Squad is a $175 million blockbuster with a character named Killer Croc — Leto makes it sounds like he thought he was making a quaint indie. He wasn’t duped. Suicide Squad is exactly the movie we all thought it would be when the first images of the Hot Topic Joker were released last year, minus the campy fun. Maybe he’s the one who filed the false advertising lawsuit?

Now that would be twisted.

(Via Consequence of Sound and Batman News)

New ‘Gotham’ Videos Include A Very Joker-esque Audio Clip

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Gotham returns to Fox for its sure-to-be-bonkers third season this upcoming Monday at 8 p.m. EST. This season will introduce Vicki Vale, Solomon Grundy, the Tweedle Brothers, Talon (of the Court of Owls), and the Mad Hatter, as well as an aged-up Poison Ivy, a possible Harley Quinn, and the return of that Bruce Wayne lookalike and the previously-deceased Fish Mooney.

Speaking of previously-deceased characters, the show hinted at the return of proto-Joker character Jerome Valeska (Cameron Monaghan) in the season two finale. Monaghan also dropped hints on social media about returning, and now he’s posted a short audio clip of himself doing an awfully Joker-sounding laugh for a character who might not be the Joker.

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And he didn’t even have to send sex toys to anybody to make that clip. (Where does Jared Leto get those wonderful toys?)

Ben McKenzie (who plays Jim Gordon) had already hinted at Jerome’s return, and Gotham executive producer John Stephens said it’s “100 percent our intention to bring Jerome back” although he might not make his official return until next year. This is fine. I’m fine.

In other Gotham news, Fox has released several new promos and a clip from the first episode of season three, starting with this clip of the Penguin warning everyone that Fish Mooney is back.

(Via Screen Rant, Cameron Monaghan, and Gotham)

Twitter Declares That Jared Leto’s Joker Is The Worst Halloween Costume For 2016

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If you aren’t following Patrick Monahan (@pattymo) on Twitter, you’re missing out on some actual fun on the platform. It’s not all outrage, browbeating, and trolling. There some actual fun to be had. Now he’s not the lead singer of Train, though I’m certain he and many others would jump at the opportunity, but he is keen on entertainment. Take the latest “investigation” that he and several other Twitter followers undertook involved a look at this year’s Halloween costume offerings.

There are plenty of offenders out there for the “worst” costume offered this season. Disney could’ve easily won with its Moana costume after many claimed it was pretty offensive to Pacific Islanders, something that forced Disney to pull the costume and issue a statement:

“The team behind Moana has taken great care to respect the cultures of the Pacific Islands that inspired the film, and we regret that the Maui costume has offended some,”

Or maybe it’s the Sexy Trump and Sexy Hillary Clinton costumes being offered in line with the other “sexy” costumes every other year. You can currently go to your next Halloween party as Donna T. Rumpshaker if you really wanted to — and had $70 bucks to spend.

But the true king, as evidenced by the Twitter hijinks earlier today, has got to be the variety that are offered for Jared Leto’s version of The Joker from Suicide Squad:

Now if you go search around Party City or other costume shops, you’ll see the Variety of offerings for Leto’s Joker and each one seems to be more misguided than the last. But where that fails and the models for the costumes have likely lost their will to live, the real heroes on Twitter have plenty of fodder for jokes:

And this one isn’t technically a costume, but there’s layers here. Layers upon layers upon layers, drizzled with donkey sauce.

Hard to top these costumes when it comes to worst of the season, but you could always hunt down another one. They are naturally terrible, so it’s easy. As for Monahan, you can usually catch him doing stand up in New York or dicking around on Twitter, threatening to delete pictures and frame Ted Cruz for crimes.

Jared Leto Gave Skrillex Creepy Gifts From The Joker, Too

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To recap, during the filming of Suicide Squad, Jared Leto reportedly stayed in character, answering only to “Mr. J” and never breaking character between scenes, growling at makeup artists, testing the laugh on strangers, and (of course) giving weird gifts to people. Much has been said about the gifts. There was the live rat given to Margot Robbie, a dead pig filled with bullets gifted to the squad, and the somehow-not-illegal gift of anal beads and used condoms in a rumor that was hopefully fake.

After all that ballyhoo — a role Leto says changed him forever (It’s not a phase, mom!) — most of his scenes were cut anyway, either because they were too insane or just not important enough, depending on whom you ask.

Oh, and somewhere along the way Leto also filmed a music video, in character as Joker, for the soundtrack’s “Purple Lamborghini” by Skrillex and Rick Ross. And now, in an interview with Complex, Skrillex revealed he was also on the receiving end of Jared Leto’s gifts to coworkers. And no, it wasn’t a snazzy coat.

Skrillex told Complex that Warner originally wanted him to do a music video using Suicide Squad footage, but he’s already friends with Jared Leto, so he suggested they do something unique together. Well, he got his wish. They made a video (below), and Leto gifted Skrillex with “the biggest dildo” he had ever seen “and a bunch of weird sh*t in a box.” Skrillex explained his reaction to Complex as, “I was just like, ‘Thank you.’ ”

It might be worth noting Leto has said he chose his gifts by thinking about “who that person is to you, what would they like?” So, when Leto thinks of a fitting gift for his buddy Skrillex, he thinks giant dildo? Anyway, here’s a music video.

(Via Complex)

Exclusive: Listen to a track from the ‘Suicide Squad’ Arkham Asylum scene

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Queen, The Rolling Stones, Kanye West, and other popular music artists largely define the sound of Suicide Squad. But holding the movie together in between the rock “n” roll and rap is the film”s score, composed by Steven Price.

When Price visited the anti-superhero movie”s Toronto set, director David Ayer talked to his composer about the characters a lot.

“He described them all really strongly, individually, as these outsiders,” Price recalled, talking with HitFix this morning on a phone call from his native U.K.

He created individual character themes that “all relate to the main Squad theme. They would find their home musically as their characters did.”

A lot of the score is rather traditional orchestral movie music that sets itself apart from the radio-friendly tunes of the rest of the movie.

Price didn”t want his score “to feel like it was coming from a different planet” from the rest of the movie”s music, but he also recognized that it “was going to be doing a different job.”

So he brought some electric guitar into the score, playing around with feedback to add in some edgy texture.

“There”s this very high sort of chiming pluck that was associated with the Joker, which is kind of a guitar string tuned way too high to the point of snapping and played really off the fingerboard,” Price explained of his sound for the iconic villain. “It made this sort of really weird, tense noise, which we then processed afterwards. The sound is like this is something that might snap at any moment, which is kind of how the Joker always appeared to us.”

For the Joker and Harley Quinn”s shared themes, Ayer directed Price to capture “this broken, doomed romance,” the composer said.

You can hear some of Price”s sound for the Joker and Harley Quinn, along with the 40-person choir assembled for the score recorded at Warner Bros., in the exclusive track below, titled “Arkham Asylum.” It”s from a scene in the film when Dr. Harleen Quinn meets with the Joker while he”s imprisoned at the famed DC Comics psychiatric hospital.

Listen to the HitFix-exclusive track below.

Suicide Squad is in theaters now. The motion picture score album will be available to download and stream on Monday, August 8.

‘Suicide Squad’ Behind The Scenes Video Shows Jared Leto Going Method, Bless His Heart

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Suicide Squad is getting its “Extended Cut” (but not a director’s cut, mind you) on digital HD this November 15th and on Blu-ray this December 13th. To promote the release, Warner Bros. gave the behind the scenes video above to Collider. And what else would it be about than Jared Leto’s edgelord Joker and his much-discussed Method acting? He reportedly stayed in character and gave numerous creepy gifts to the other actors (and to Skrillex). He even said he had so many deleted scenes they could be their own R-rated spin-off, bless his heart.

In the clip above, Leto talks about trying to do his own take on the character to “push the envelope,” while director David Ayer talks about saying goodbye to Leto:

“So during the process of figuring out the Joker and helping Jared create that character, I kinda had to say goodbye to Jared. There was a point when he went away and was replaced slowly and surely by the Joker. It was a fascinating process to watch. There was this really nice guy, a good guy with a lot of depth to him, he’s a very thoughtful person… the Joker is not someone you’d say is a really good guy.”

He’s so edgy, you guys. If you don’t understand how edgy, you soon will.

(Via Collider and Twitter)


Harley Quinn And Joker Come Together In A ‘Suicide Squad’ Behind The Scenes Video

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Suicide Squad will release its “Extended Cut” on digital HD this Tuesday and on Blu-ray December 13th. To promote the digital download, they’ve been releasing behind the scenes videos like this previous one about Jared Leto method acting the Joker (so edgy). The new video sees Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn) talking about her scenes with Leto, many of which were cut because they were (according to Leto) too insane or because they were (according to Robbie) not the main story line.

Says Comics Alliance:

Leto and Robbie had not spent any time in rehearsal together, imbuing the scenes with a kind of nervous uncertainty that definitely comes across in the movie. Leto is doing his method actor thing while Robbie is trying to react as much as act; it’s an interesting collision of the two styles, and it just increases my appreciation for Robbie’s performance given what she had to work with.

That’s definitely a very different set up than the rest of the cast. As Robbie explains, her scenes with the rest of the “skwad” were heavily rehearsed, bringing them closer together. Director David Ayer has said those rehearsals involved a lot of opening up about their personal lives and having them punch each other because it “gets rid of a lot of the actor stuff.” Joel Kinnaman said there were a full month of rehearsals. That’s a lot of confessions and punching. Probably still less weird than doing an unrehearsed scene with Jared Leto going full method, though.

(Via Comics Alliance)

Mark Hamill Has The Last Word On Jared Leto’s ‘Suicide Squad’ Joker

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To many people, Mark Hamill has two definitive roles. There’s Luke Skywalker, of course, but for a lot of people, he’s also the definitive Joker. Starting with Batman: The Animated Series and working his way through the role for more than two decades, Hamill’s been the voice of the Joker, and multiple versions of him to boot. And, now that he’s got a new series in the works, he’s been asked to weigh in on Jared Leto.

Leto got raked over the coals for his portrayal of the Joker in Suicide Squad, not least because we spent months hearing about how method he was. Hamill, however, is a bit more nuanced and kind in his review:

“Everyone brings a different spin to the character and you have to look at each script separately,” Hamill said. “I don’t think there’s a definitive version of the Joker and I don’t think there can be. It’s like Hamlet, really. It’ll be constantly redefined.”

Recently, DC revealed that there were three different Jokers running around: A more playful Joker like from the ’66 series, a creepier one not unlike Jack Nicholson’s take, and the scary Heath Ledger-esque version. Although we’d also point out that, unlike Hamlet, the Joker has been spared the indignity of being portrayed by Ethan Hawke, so he’s got that going for him at least.

(via Polygon)

A ‘Suicide Squad’ Fan Tried To Round Up Every Deleted Scene Of The Joker

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Suicide Squad now has an “Extended Cut” out on digital HD with about thirteen minutes of deleted scenes, including an extra scene of Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) and Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), some extra dialogue between Harley and Deadshot (Will Smith), another scene of Harley pushing buttons, and just one extra scene of Joker and Harley together. With all this lack of additional Joker footage, Warner might need to worry some fans will sue them in England.

One fan noticed there were many scenes of Jared Leto’s tWi$t3d Joker in trailers, TV spots, featurettes, set photos, and b-roll that never made either cut of the film. RedDawnHanger77 pieced together the video above based on what could have been. Some of the trailer footage is finally given a context, like Joker wagging his finger:

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While other scenes still remain a mystery, like Joker banging his head against the window of his purple Infiniti G35.

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Maybe he’s just realizing he’s not part of the main story line.

The scenes also hint at Joker being far more violent in the original, darker version of the story. So maybe Leto wasn’t joking when he said all the work he did could have been its own R-rated spin-off. He’s just so twisted, you guys. I heard he, like, laughs at funerals and everything.

It’s been ONE WEEK since the Suicide Squad extended cut released on digital HD.

(Via Comic Book Movie)

The Joker On ‘Gotham’ May Have Finally Been Revealed With This Photo

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Potential spoilers ahead for Gotham seasons 2 and 3.

Gotham season 2 ended with a busload of mutated villains escaping from Arkham, including at least one character (Fish Mooney) who was presumed dead. An off-screen escapee seemed to have the familiar laugh of Jerome Valeska (Cameron Monaghan), the parent-murdering carnival worker who acted like a Brian Bollard-influenced Joker, yet he appeared to die early into season 2. But people involved with the show immediately started hinting he would be back, although they’ve always played an is-he-or-isn’t he game with questions about whether or not Jerome is the Joker, calling him “the beginning of the Joker arc” while saying he only “might” be the Joker himself.

We may be getting a definitive answer soon enough, because Cameron Monaghan has been releasing-then-deleting teaser photos via social media (more on that in a moment) and Fox released a promo for the 12th episode of season 3, titled “Ghosts”, and it seems clear Jerome is coming back. The video shows Gordon stumbling upon a group of cult-like fans watching the video Jerome sent to the media of his siege on the Gotham police headquarters:

Executive producer John Stephens has said there will be “underground movements” who believe Jerome is coming back “like in the days of John the Baptist.” Stephens also said Jerome “plays into the idea of transformation” and will be a “new version.”

Monaghan has confirmed just how new this version is. First he shared then deleted some photos of a makeup test, which showed some Joker-like changes to his face. More recently, he shared then deleted a picture of himself in full costume, with a purple vest and an altered face:

This isn’t necessarily what he’ll look like on the show, but it does get people talking about the next episode of Gotham, which returns Monday, January 16th, at 8 p.m. ET/PT on FOX. See? We’re talking about it right now. He’s such a showman.

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(Via Screen Rant and Gotham)

Mark Hamill Gives The President-Elect’s Odd New Year’s Tweet A Joker Makeover

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Right before he departed to his Palm Springs den of luxury for a New Year’s Eve party featuring both Stallone brothers and apparently a convicted felon with possible mob ties, Donald Trump had to close out 2016 doing what he does best: posting tweets. With his NYE tweet, the president-elect took aim at all of his enemies and people who attempting to beat him but couldn’t in the year that preceded.

It was a message that Matt Oswalt called something the Joker would post while replying to Trump, something that must’ve hit a chord with The Joker himself. I say that because Mark Hamill took up doing what Billy West and many others have done this campaign and recorded the Donald’s tweet in his iconic Joker voice.

If you’re going to react or post a reply to a Donald Trump tweet, you can at least attempt to reach this bar. Mark Hamill has done some classic work here by actually bringing the tweet to life and giving people a slight laugh by turning the trolling on itself. I still lean towards enjoying West’s Zapp Brannigan reading Trump’s best lines — mostly because some Doctor Zoidberg makes its way in there to represent Trump’s crazy doctor — but I’ll take any excuse for Hamill to bring out The Joker.

Mark Hamill’s Joker Returns To Inject Trump’s Meryl Streep Criticism With A Villainous Tone

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Mark Hamill has been a long-time critic of the president-elect up to this point, but the new year saw the Star Wars actor bring his memorable performance as The Joker into the mix. Given that Matt Oswalt and a few others pointed out how much Trump’s almost daily criticisms on Twitter sound like the ravings on a supervillain, Hamill thought it was only fitting that he give them a voice.

Enter The Trumpster, a weekly dive into Trump’s latest attack on one of his critics that mashes the Joker with the president-elect’s words. The end result is something special given how well Hamill gets into his Joker role. The focus of Hamill’s recording this week is Trump’s response to Meryl Streep’s speech at the Golden Globes. He’s already a bit behind given today’s comments, but the final product is worth the wait:

Matt Oswalt, the original inspiration for the recordings alongside Billy West and Maurice LaMarche, commented on the latest one with something we might actually see given all the discussion about Russia that is swirling around the president-elect. It might not happen, but the entire situation is uncharted territory for American politics.

And in honor of Hamill’s efforts, the Trumpster gets his own creepy fan art. Who knows where The Trumpster will go next week.

(Via Mark Hamill)

‘Gotham’ Releases The First Video Of Resurrected Proto-Joker Jerome

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Potential spoilers ahead.

Gotham season three is returning for mid-season premiere “Mad City: Ghosts” tonight, with two more episodes airing on the proceeding Mondays before the show goes back on hiatus until April 24th. And — as we’ve already learned — someone who seems an awful lot like the Joker is returning (for at least three episodes) as well.

We already saw some of Jerome Valeska’s new look when actor Cameron Monaghan posted makeup test pictures, but now we can see the final version of the resurrected Jerome in the promo video above and screencap below (in case the video gets pulled). And they are laying the Joker references on thick:

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So how is he back from the dead? In tonight’s episode, Gordon will uncover a cult built around Jerome, and its leader is planning to reanimate Jerome’s corpse, because this show is bonkers. In addition, that leader is played by David Dastmalchian, who also played a schizophrenic henchman of the Joker in The Dark Knight. So meta.

But surely Jerome will be in good spirits when he rises from the grave, right?

According to executive producer John Stephens, [Jerome will] also be even more unhinged: “Someone who has basically gone through death and come back to life has a very different point of view. It’s odd to say he’s more psychotic than he was before.” [Via]

They should have given him the pony he asked for.

Gotham and Jerome return tonight at 8 p.m. ET/PT on FOX.

(Via MFTV and Screen Rant)


Jared Leto Teases A Return To The Joker Role With These Photos

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Jared Leto’s tWi$t3d Joker may not have been lavished with praise in reviews of Suicide Squad, but that doesn’t mean he’s any less an integral part of the DC Extended Universe now. Whether he’s being dubbed a total edgelord, a “manorexic juggalo,” or the living embodiment of the HAM horn, we still just can’t look away. Jared Leto is an ACTOR. He demands our attention and the swankiest of coats.

And now Leto has dropped some hints — via Snapchat photos — about his return to the DCEU. Although we’re skeptical about rumors of Leto having a cameo in Justice League, it would make sense for him to show up in Gotham City Sirens (produced by and starring Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn) or in the Ben Affleck three-hander (co-writing/directing/starring) The Batman.

The first photo Leto dropped on Snapchat Wednesday afternoon was from the cover of The Killing Joke:

Some might speculate this means The Killing Joke‘s plot will figure into The Batman, but the much more likely reason for this photo is that it’s a direct callback to the early glimpse of a Joker in progress that David Ayer tweeted in April of 2015:

The second, much stranger photo Leto shared is a purple and gold Gucci jewel box holding a pendant necklace featuring a human molar in a gold and silver setting:

Our guess would be that this is one of the teeth Batman knocked out of Joker’s head before locking him in Arkham, where Joker got new metal teeth and tattooed “damaged” on his forehead because Batman damaged him. That’s canon. That’s what the director said happened. So Edgy McEdgerton.

(Via CBM and Batman News)

‘Gotham’ Isn’t Even Pretending This Guy Isn’t The Joker Anymore

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Video contains potential spoilers.

Gotham has no heroes. Nothing but darkness. I would like to share that with you.Proto-Joker Jerome Valeska (Cameron Monaghan) made good on that promise during Monday’s episode of Gotham, returning from the dead and setting off explosives along the power grid, plunging all of Gotham into a blackout after telling the public via live TV to do whatever they want and be reborn like he was. Also, his face had been removed and he’d just stapled it back on, like some straight-up Death Of The Family stuff.

This show is bonkers.

Now Fox has released a spoiler-filled three-minute long trailer for next Monday’s winter finale episode, “The Gentle Art Of Making Enemies,” in which Jerome and Bruce face off and Bruce seems to literally punch Jerome’s face off. (Told you this show is bonkers.)

The trailer is filled with misdirection, like at 2:48 when it appears Nygma is shooting Penguin but he’s actually shooting past him at someone or something off screen. And all of this Jerome stuff could prove be a disappointing misdirection.

Even though the Gotham crew haven’t confirmed Jerome will become the Joker — and they could just kill him off again — they’ve been laying the Joker references on thick, especially in the video above. If he’s not the Joker, they have some ‘splaining to do. They’re going to need to introduce Joker eventually (especially since Harley Quinn is supposed to arrive this season), and having him be anyone but Jerome at this point would seem like a simulacrum. Yeah, we usually don’t know much about Joker’s backstory, but this is an origin series set in an alternate universe. Does anyone really mind knowing if the Joker was a parent-murdering carnival worker in his teenage years? There are worse versions, is all we’re saying.

Gotham‘s winter finale airs Monday, January 30th at 8 p.m. ET/PT on FOX, then returns again (with or without a Joker) on April 24th.

(Via Gotham)

‘Gotham’ Debuts The Riddler Costume And Starts Getting Real About The Joker

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If you weren’t watching the winter finale of Gotham, just know that it was bonkers. Jerome got even more Joker-like and thankfully survived, although he did get his face punched off before being hauled off to Arkham for some of that John Travolta / Nic Cage face surgery. Another thing (among many) that happened in this stuffed episode was that Edward Nygma thinks he’s killed the Penguin, shooting him on the same pier Detective Gordon pushed Penguin off of in the first season (GRRR, SYMBOLISM).

Now that he’s murdered someone on purpose, Nygma is ready to go full Riddler, as seen in the preview video above. He’s even got the first iteration of his costume:

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Riddler actor Cory Michael Smith told Cinema Blend he’s vying to get the character a cane, but first he has to become “someone who deserves a f*cking cane.” Fair point.

Meanwhile, Fox also released a video of Jerome actor Cameron Monaghan trying to talk about playing the Joker without saying he’s the Joker:

Monaghan was a little less guarded in two interviews with Comic Book, first by telling them:

“We get to do a lot of stuff with him that has never really been done with a live action version of the Joker before, so we were able to have some real fun with him this time around.”

If that’s not admitting the character is becoming the Joker, I don’t know what is.

Monaghan also told Comic Book his biggest influences were the comic books and Mark Hamill’s Joker, and he also spoke about where this bonkers show could possibly go next:

“I’m not exactly sure where they’re gonna go with it, but character wise what’s great about Jerome is that a sane person, when they do something extreme, will try to wind it back; but every time he takes a step forward, he never takes a step back. he just pushes it further, he goes bigger, he goes more violent, more mean, and so obviously the next time he comes back he’s gonna be trying to top himself in any way he can.”

So, “we ain’t seen nothing yet”?

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Gotham returns on April 24th.

(Via Gotham, Gizmodo, Cinema Blend, and Comic Book [1 and 2])

‘The Batman’ Script Includes Jared Leto’s Joker And Other Villains, But It’s Heading For A Rewrite

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After much speculation, Ben Affleck finally announced he would only be starring in and producing The Batman, not directing it. But the word was the original script by Affleck and Geoff Johns was still going to be used, perhaps with rewrites. Now a 3600-word feature from Forbes offers new insights into, among other things, what that original script contains, and strap in, kids, because there was (maybe still is) going to be plenty of Jared Leto’s edgelord Joker. He tried to warn us; we should have listened.

Forbes confirms rumors the script underwent a rewrite by Academy Award winner Chris Terrio (Argo), and they add that “the project will undergo substantial changes and possible/probably another full rewrite.” They later say they’re “hearing anything from ‘major rewrites’ to ‘a completely new script,’ including starting from scratch on the story if that’s what it takes.” Forbes is also using the term “a fresh start” which, it seems, is what DC says after every one of their movies so far. They can change, baby. They can use less blue filter on the next one. Honest.

Interestingly, the long article also reveals something about the original script we didn’t know: Joe Manganiello’s Deathstroke wasn’t going to be the only villain. We were also going to see more of Jared Leto: ACTOR as well as “a few other” rogues. (Will Smith’s Deadshot, Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, or other Gotham City Sirens characters would be a good bet, though Forbes mentions no one specific besides Leto.)

The Batman is likely coming in 2019, so we’ll see if Joker stays in the picture.

(Via Forbes)

The Story Behind Heath Ledger’s Joker Transformation

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Looking back on comic book movies from the last 25 years or so, few performances stand out like Heath Ledger as The Joker in the 2008’s The Dark Knight. His twisted, manic take on the quintessential Batman villain redefined the character for Nolan’s dark, grounded film and the approach resonated with audiences. When Ledger died months before the film was released, his death was the most-reported entertainment story of the year, and became inseparable from both his portrayal of The Joker as well as the film on a whole.

Ledger was first approached by Nolan to play the title character in 2005’s Batman Begins. Ledger replied politely that he’d “never do this kind of film,” and the role would eventually go to Christian Bale. The following year, when discussing the sequel, Nolan announced that Ledger would be cast as The Joker, and that he was “talented but fearless,” promising audiences that “watching Heath Ledger’s interpretation of this iconic character taking on Christian Bale’s Batman is going to be incredible.”

Regardless of Nolan’s assurances, when Ledger’s casting was announced, it was subject to the scrutiny of Bat-fans all over the internet. Of course there were similar reactions to Michael Keaton’s casting as Batman in the late 1980s, as well as Ben Affleck when it was announced he’d don the cowl for Dawn of Justice back in 2013. While Keaton and Affleck each won over many of the doubters, only Ledger managed to undo virtually every skeptical fan’s doubts.

During a Q&A at the Film Society of Lincoln Center in 2012, Nolan said that he never had to approach Ledger for the role, because, in his own words, “Heath chose me.”

He just was determined to do it. He just had a vision for something, and the way he termed it to me at the time was, he really didn’t like to work too much. He liked to do a character and then stop working then let enough time go by. He wanted to be hungry for it. And when he came to me, he was clearly in that state: Very hungry. He was ready to do something like that and just own it — which is what he did.

Ledger was no stranger to Method acting, and he took his commitment to the role seriously. Being cast before the script was written, Nolan explained that Ledger had “a very long time to obsess about it, think about what he was going to do, to really figure it out.” In addition, Nolan had Ledger read Anthony Burgess’ A Clockwork Orange and study the paintings of Francis Bacon. Then, months before shooting began, Ledger isolated himself, writing and collaging images to help him get inside the character’s head. When Ledger spoke to Empire Online from the set of The Dark Knight in 2007, he explained his process.

I sat around in a hotel room in London for about a month, locked myself away, formed a little diary and experimented with voices — it was important to try to find a somewhat iconic voice and laugh. I ended up landing more in the realm of a psychopath — someone with very little to no conscience towards his acts.

When production began, Ledger would be on set every day in full costume and makeup — but he’d only be in character when filming. Make-up artist John Caglione told Movie Geeks United in 2012 that Ledger would skateboard around, goof off, smoke cigarettes, and give out bear hugs at the beginning and the end of every workday. When it was time for him to work, however, he had his Joker diary close by to bring the character out at will.

As Ledger threw himself into the film, his sleep began to suffer. He told The New York Times when filming in London in 2007 that he “probably slept an average of two hours a night. I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.” The article makes note of his manic behavior and compulsive ticks, his general restlessness, as well as the Ambien he began taking to help him sleep.

His Joker diary also comes up, observed by the interviewer when it was laying on a counter in the kitchen of his rental house, which Ledger sheepishly explained is there to help give him the character’s backstory.

When in character, he certainly made an impression on his co-stars. He startled Michael Caine so badly that he forgot his lines, and Bale told The Guardian earlier this year that Ledger had “turned up and just kind of completely ruined all my plans. Because I’m like, he’s so much more interesting than me and what I’m doing.” By Ledger’s own account, after production wrapped in October of 2007, he said his time playing The Joker was “the most fun I’ve ever had, or probably ever will have, playing a character.”

Then, on January 22, 2008, less than six months before the movie was slated for theaters, Ledger was found dead in his Manhattan loft. The cause was ruled as an accidental overdose of prescription pills, though rumors started to immediately circulate that the role of The Joker had taken its toll on him, contributing to, or even causing, his death.

This rampant speculation was fueled, in part, by Jack Nicholson, who had previously told MTV News in 2007 that he was “furious” over not being considered for the role of the Joker. When he was informed about Ledger’s death on camera, he gave a long pause before responding simply “I warned him.” A few days later Nicholson walked back these statements, explaining he was talking about the sleeping pills that were found in the loft with him, saying that he “didn’t know Heath Ledger, but I know those pills.

When The Dark Knight was released in the summer of 2008, The New Yorker called his performance “terrifying,” praising it as a “heroic, unsettling final act: this young actor looked into the abyss.” The review even speculates that Ledger must have “badly messed himself up” to conjure such a performance.

At the time of his death, Ledger was halfway through filming The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassas, and director Terry Gilliam brought in Johnny Deep, Colin Farrell, and Jude Law to play incarnations of his character, Tony, in order to complete the film. Gilliam refuted these notions that the role of The Joker killed Ledger, telling The Talk in 2012 that such allegations were all “bullsh*t.”

Heath was so solid. His feet were on the ground and he was the least neurotic person I’ve ever met. Heath was just great and that’s why it became so impossible to understand. But for the outside world they had to sort of invent a reason. He was incredibly intelligent, generous, sweet, wise, solid as a rock, and unbelievably playful. So when he acted it was like playing, but wherever that playing went he followed it fearlessly. But then I would say ‘cut’ and we’d be talking about football. So there was none of this twisted neurosis that a lot of actors suffer from.

Despite assurances from Gilliam, these ideas are explored in the 2012 German documentary Too Young To Die, where Ledger’s father explains his son’s Method approach to creating a character. “It was typical of Heath on any movie, he would certainly immerse himself in the character and I think this was just a whole new level.” There were other strangely personal attributes Ledger brought in, as his father explains his sister would dress him up as a nurse when playing as children, adding that it was “very funny” to see that on screen. In that same scene, his daughter’s name, Mathilda, appears on the uniform’s name tag.

Of course, the Joker diary is brought up in Too Young To Die, as his father, Kim Ledger, pores over the pages; he explains it was his son’s tool to “galvanize the character,” saying that it was typical of him to prepare in such a way. Although, there is a certain ominousness he finds at the diary’s end. “Before the end of the shooting he wrote ”bye bye” on the back of the page. It was hard to see this.”

Ledger would go on to posthumously win the Academy Award for his performance, a rare achievement for comic book adaptations, and his death is, to this day, synonymous with both The Joker and The Dark Knight. Back in 2008, just two days after Ledger’s death, Leonard Maltin speculated to the New York Daily News the kind of shadow this would cast over the production, as well as the bittersweet nature of this inevitability. “It says something about the curious nature of film, that someone can be so alive onscreen when we’re all too aware that they’ve passed. It underscores how we’re mortal, and films are immortal.”

This is an updated version of an article that originally ran on April 6, 2016.

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